what are “spotify fans”? Spotify paid 150k $ for Trump’s inauguration party, f them. They do not deserve my money
I left Spotify for many reasons including this. They’ve only proven that they do not care about artists at all. I remember before I left, many of the tracks that came up “based on my playlist” were just random AI generated crap.
Considering how much Spotify pays artists per listens, piracy is barely any different in that regard.
Wrong
Piracy is 100x more ethical
This is the most upsetting part. If you’re a solo artist without a label, you need what’s essentially a million listens to break minimum wage. For bands, and anyone with a label, even that’s practically out of question. This shit is why everyone sells 75$ t-shirts at shows
Do it
Seriously, fuck Spotify and anyone else using that error-prone, intrusive, insecure bullshit.
Where is Spotify error prone? I dont use it that much, but I havent encountered a bug once.
I use it a lot, and have been for 10 years or so. I have never had any sort of error. It has simply always worked exactly like it’s supposed to.
I don’t know anything about it being intrusive or insecure, and definately need a source on that, but it’s possible those criticisms are valid, but again, need a damn source. As is, the person you commented on has lost all cridibilty, so I’m inclined to err on the side of caution, and assume they don’t know what they’re talking about.
When people get mad they get hyperbolic sometimes. Might be the case here. Same with not having it error on me as well. That said, fuck their CEO, they lost a sub from me after I heard about the drone investment.
Do it.
It’s easy. Just use a Youtube-to-MP3 converter.
If I am paying for my account personally, with a card in my name, what more do they need?
They want to scan your face to get as many images of people of stated ages to feed into their facial recognition system. Do not for one moment think it is for anything else.
Edit: it is like how Facebook had a 10 years ago you looked like this! Post a new comparison photo today!’ Specifically because they want to know how people age for their AI shit.
Yeah, they want to be able to ‘People that look like This listen to This’ so that advertisers have more options when they are locking down commercials.
Well sure, the real reason is always data harvesting.
I mean… I’m already using Nicotine+ (Soulseek).
tf is spotify “fans”? more like spotify “users”
Fans of things that are provisioned by Spotify.
doesn’t make them fans of spotify though
I guess that’s why I didn’t say that, or agree with that framing.
Personally I could never get into the whole Spotify and Pandora thing. I want to listen to what I want to listen to and when I want to listen to it, without ridiculous restrictions and rules. YouTube has honestly been the far better choice for music for me.
It’s mostly the discovery aspect, it’s easy to find new and emerging artists through these services, and they make playing that music very convenient. YouTube does have some of it with YouTube music but I’ve not found the algorithm to be as good as Spotify or Tidal
Having a collection of music in files that I own has been my go-to for years. Currently VLC says I have 701 hours of music in files on my phone. That’s only 29.2 days worth.
Man, I had around 10 gigs of vintage mp3s that is created since the days of Limewire/Napster. Uploaded it all to Google Music and lost track of the external I’d had the collection stored on. Whatever, it’s all in the cloud now.
Then it wasn’t.
I really, Really, need to back up all of my Gdocs, just in case that service ceases to be.
(I wonder if ancient crunchy low bitrate mp3s will be an aesthetic, the way that dusty vinyl or worn out tapes are?)
I wonder if ancient crunchy low bitrate mp3s will be an aesthetic, the way that dusty vinyl or worn out tapes are?
You might want to check music.youtube.com, I still have my (GMusic) uploaded collection available there, I cannot upload new, but what was there still is. Just mentioning it in case you are still looking for your music.
That said, yes, downloading (pirating or not) and setting a home music server seems to be the best option.
It’s not necessarily your music though, it’s the closest that they found in their library sometimes. I have tons of tracks that I uploaded the explicit copy of to gmusic but my library downloads only had the censored/radio version.
Found that out the hard way after a drive crash a few years back. Have spent a bit of time reacquiring the stuff I cared about.
I used to do that and I do still have a lot of music from that time on my computer, but somewhere along the line I stopped downloading music and just started listening to it on YouTube whenever I thought of something in particular.
Tidal is pretty good these days. Qobuz too
And Bandcamp
We switched to Deezer about a month ago and are liking it. Flow seems to find music I like way better than Spotify’s DJ or “for you” playlists.
Bandcamp is owned by union busters. Only use on Bandcamp Friday for best effect.
Tidal is pretty harsh on vpns and my whole network is behind something most of the time :(
I’m having a pretty good time with Qobuz. Their curated collections are actually really good and I’ve found a lot of new stuff in there; it’s not the “here’s what the record label is shoveling this week” like on Spotify. Also, the high bitrate stuff… I hate to admit it, but it really does sound better.
do they have a lot of german music too, or are they focused on american / french music?
Buy and store your own music. HDTracks and 7Digital both sell high quality DRM free downloads, or you can just swing by your local Walmart or Dollar Store and grab some CDs to rip.
Or you could go sailing, that’s always an option…
Libraries can have pretty good CD collections too
As much as I’d like to do that, I have listened to over 7000 artists on Spotify.
I simply don’t have the time (or money) to look those up individually.
So I can either choose to have worse experience, or stick with Spotify for now.Is there rippers for Spotify?
That I don’t know. I mean you could always just use something to record the sound played by your PC, but at that point A) You’re not getting as good of quality as you would from an actual download of the source material and you’d have to manually assign metadata, make sure no notifications or other sounds played, make sure your recording settings were optimum, etc. It’s easier, right now at least, to just buy what you want on CD or from a store that sells digital downloads legitimately.
what’s even the point of age gating “explicit” music?
“oh no! “Speak To Me” by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can’t let my kids hear it!”
I’ve been cursing a lot lately, and I blame what I listened to in Spotify. By no means was it because I was playing my pirated Eminem music all weekend 🤣🤣
We live in a rural part of Canada that has been left behind by modern times. Mostly by the choice of the residents. I grew up during satanic panic. It was crazy here. My wife and I let our kids listen to anything they want. They always have. They’re 10 and 12.
Their friends often comment about swear words and “sex, drugs and rock and roll” themes of the music they listen too. As an old man I get to regale them with stories of how crazy the Christians were over heavy metal and punk rock when I was a kid, including their grandma.
Now I yell “you’re gonna go to hell!” As a joke to them every time their friends bring it up and I am around.
You’re parenting the right way. Let our kids know about our past and how it compares to theirs, live it. And joking with my kids and their friends without immediately jumping to “that’s bullying”, you can tell my kids are a bit happier than the rest because everything is a joke to them. I applaud you.
Just get me the kid bop version
I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.
Source for this?
Not the one who mentioned it but I was curious about this as well and found this;
Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics…
I am trying the following services the next few months: Tidal, deezer, qobuz and pirating
I’ve been on tidal for a few months now. It’s not as feature rich as far as integrations and sharing a link to a track for your pals is hit or miss but it seems to have all the music i listen to and sounds a little better than spotify for the artists that upload max quality.
I did the import from spotify using their suggested vendor and only like 20 out of 8000 or so songs didn’t transfer because they didn’t have the artist on tidal.
I heartily recommend the last two.
keep me updated!
yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-quality 3 --audio-format oggFails sometimes, I’ve had issues downloading many musics, and it doesn’t have recommendations and stuff
You can probably get a pirate hat online for a few bucks. And there are plenty of discoverability systems not based on integration with a subscription service.
I’d love something nicely automated
Soundcloud lets you play any song you want at any time, even on the free tier, and when you ask it to play a playlist, it only plays songs on the playlist.
You can have recommendations from an algorithm if you choose, but it’s encouraged rather than enforced.
There are a lot more independent artists on it, and fewer big labels, or at least it feels that way because it doesn’t seem to prioritise big labels over some person I’ve never heard of.
Spotify has an annoy-users-until-they-pay model. If you deliberately piss me off, you’re not getting any of my money. Soundcloud just has ads.
I like the random recommendations from time to time
I’m a bit afraid that their algorithm is shit
to be fair at this point I’m mostly on youtube music because it allows playing youtube videos as well, which sometimes is the only way of playing some musics
a NAS
LOL ‘Spotify fans’ buch of losers
I don’t mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That’s just creepy. Fuck off.
It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?
April 20th, 1969? Anyone?
Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.
How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?
A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region). And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.
Plus, you won’t be at risk of spending money you don’t have, and it doesn’t negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.
He’s saying if you have a credit card to pay there’s no need to verify (I think)
Edit: nah I’m wrong, cheers
I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself
Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.
Besides that, credit cards (and chipless debit cards) are unsecure? That receiving credit cards payments costs more in terms of administration costs?
That credit cards are a system designed for consumerism (you see this especially in the US) and that people who grew up with credit cards being the default/more common payment method are often worse with money?
There is a reason why you can only own credit cards if you are an adult, but you can own chipped debit cards earlier.
Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands
given that governments are now starting to make certain protests illegal, definitely not as bad as having your face in a database and your behaviour being mapped for suspicious illegal activity like criticising genocide.
You’re right and I’d go a bit further: It’s none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.
Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.
The invasiveness is the point. Age gating explicit content is just the excuse.
This
Eh, I don’t like it, but its kinda the norm if you wanna ever leave your country. My dad who’s a PRC Citizen doesn’t even have to go to the embassy/consulate anymore for passport renewal, its now done via an app, which of course they’d have to scan your face. I expect other countries to also adopt the same practice, just as they did with mass surveillance. And then it will eventually move from the government services to the private sector.
I mean, I hate to think about it, but we might have mandatory brain chips in the future… 👀
There’s a wide gap between “travelling to another country” and “listening to music.”
I’m not trying to go on holiday to Spotify
fair point but given the direction US and UK are headed, something legal you do online can be illegal in a couple years with a face attached to that activity. What you mention is also bad (your face being in a face recognition database) but not as bad as that being attached to tons of behavioural data collected about you.
