• realitista@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    Until they make a proper upgrade to my surface 10, I will have no other choice but to stay on the windows 10 version.

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      3 days ago

      clears throat

      Surface Linux Kernel. Surface 10 supported.

      Some distros of Linux that have SLK rolled in:

      Nobara:

      • Based on fedora
      • Made by GloriousEggroll who also is responsible for protonGE a great derivative of the Steam Proton compatibility layer for playing windows games on Linux
      • Development and maintaining it is done by a single dude, so if something happens to him, that’s the project done, this is not in the Pros section.

      BlissOS:

      • for when you really just want your surface device to be running Android
      • immutable distro, makes it easier to undo fuck ups, and often prevents them happening at all
      • seems fairly mature and robust, I don’t know for a fact as I haven’t used it

      Gentoo Surface:

      • for when you want to put a bit more effort in
      • the instructions here are from building Gentoo locally using and Arch LiveISO
      • FOR WHEN YOU WANT TO PUT MORE EFFORT IN

      These were the really easy to find options. There’s absolutely going to be more that have SLK rolled in…but that’s not actually necessary, as the SLK git has easy to follow instructions on rolling it into whatever distro might interest you. The whole Linux universe is your oyster.

      I have a Surface Pro 4, and I run Nobara, works great, better than windows. There are some hardware things that don’t 100% work on some surface devices. Here is the Supported device list and Features Matrix. Looks like the SP10 doesn’t like to hibernate, and doesn’t have working cameras atm.

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        2 days ago

        Doesn’t really solve my OneNote problem, as I run it on no fewer than 7 macOS, windows, iOS, and android devices.

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          Joplin has apps for all UNIX-likes(Mac, Win and Lin,) iOS(phone and pad variants), and Android. It can import Evernote and OneNote. It’s built to E2EE notes to cloud services, currently supporting: Joplin Cloud, Nextcloud, S3, WebDAV, Dropbox, OneDrive or the local file system.
          If you’d like to fully tell M$ to get fucked…I can recommend self hosting NextCloud.
          Not incredibly difficult to set up, I’m fairly fluent in Linux systems…but by no means a “Wizard”, and my self hosting knowledge is extremely minimal.

          There’s other options out there, but Joplin has all the apps…

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            2 days ago

            Do any of those focus primarily on handwriting for input and support macOS, android, and windows for offline input?

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              2 days ago

              Yep!

              See point #2. Hand written notes can be kept as is, one thing that’s not mentioned in that link is that Joplin can also use OCR to change handwriting to typed.

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                That’s a Markdown editor with a separate drawing tool, not a notes app focused on handwriting. You can’t annotate a PDF or typed text or edit a drawing after it’s been created.

                Not at all comparable.

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              Since you tagged @realitista@lemm.ee I’ll do the same so they see my counter…argument?

              In it’s first release(2017) it was 50.3MB.

              In Nov, 2024, it was 340MB. Oct, 2024, 327MB

              6th Jan, 2024: 266MB
              24th Oct, 2023: 229MB
              21st Oct, 2023: 180MB
              30th Jul, 2023: 214MB
              23rd Jun, 2023: 196MB

              This is a very active project, things are added constantly, then optimised or tweaked or removed. Going through the releases it looks like their install packages get bigger over the span of a few months, then through optimisation gets shrunk down again. The above numbers are only for the windows full install package, but all their different packages have a very similar pattern of bloat followed by trimming. I don’t see how this is weird at all.

              What about this is actually concerning for you?

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        2 days ago

        Big thanks for this. Been thinking about what to do with my daughter’s Surface Book once Win10 is EOL and it looks like Nobara will be the first and hopefully final stop.

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          No worries bud! It really makes me angry what M$ is doing here, obviously they’re not alone in being a cause of our eWaste “addiction”…but this is really a situation that should be opening people’s eyes. Apple is bad for it too. Their laptops have a fairly short lifecycle, and unless you want/can to put Linux on your MacBook whatever, it’s no longer secure after usually about 5 years. Intentionally driving the disposable culture, buy, use briefly, replace for arguably too much, repeat.

          Have her try Nobara for a week, but tell her it’s hardly the only option! With how easy it is to include SLK into (almost?) any distro, I really wasn’t kidding when I said the Linux Universe is your oyster! Hell, you could compile your own distro if you’re a masochist!