• Optional@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I wonder if they’ll ever notice this place. Like. Before a big election or something.

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      2 months ago

      You are commenting in a post linking to “kyivinsider”, whose article sources its information from “alliance4europe”, this is literally state propaganda. I don’t mean to say it’s disinformation because the content of the article is probably true, but this is evidence that state propaganda is already rampant in Lemmy and we should be aware of it.

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    2 months ago

    This is how smaller communities die. They get infested with state actors and the paradigm shifts on some of the stupidest, dipshit topics.

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      2 months ago

      You are literally reading EU state propaganda in this very post, an article by “kyivinsider” sourcing its information from “alliance4europe”, funded by the European Parliament and the Polish International Affairs ministry among others (according to its own website, feel free to check the link inside the article).

      That doesn’t mean that it’s fake news or anything, the report is most likely true, just that it’s really ironic that we’re consuming state propaganda designed to make us worried about state propaganda from other “evil” countries (unlike our glorious EU parliament, not on a fascist downward spiral at all)

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      2 months ago

      I too love genocidal regimes and war crimes. Can’t get enough of that mass slaughter of civilians and kidnapping of children.

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          2 months ago

          I voted for Kamala to prevent my own gay daughter from being part of Trump’s genocide. Sorry, I care about my daughter more than anyone else in this world and I am going to do what is best for her. Which is why we fled the U.S. when Trump won.

          But let me guess- I should care about people other than my daughter first. And also, queer people aren’t in any danger under Trump.

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            2 months ago

            Honestly, props to you for fleeing the US while you could, the genocidal empire is on a spiral to fascism. May I ask where you’ve decided to move?

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                2 months ago

                Welp, here’s hoping that western Europe doesn’t end up going in the same direction. I’m western European myself and I’m fucking afraid of the fascist spiral we’re seeing here too.

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        2 months ago

        Kidnapping? Palestinians dream someone kidnap their kids like that - got them away from warzone with food and shelter.

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            2 months ago

            Wikipedia, according to itself, isn’t a reliable source when it comes to such internationally hot topics. It’s primarily written by western young men who are mostly exposed exclusively to western media, and the articles they write are referenced by this same media. If you wanna read a bit more on this, I did a writeup some weeks ago about this very topic, sourcing my information from wikipedia itself.

            With this I don’t mean to say that the accusations you’re showing are false, I honestly don’t have enough information to confirm or deny it, but in times of war information is a powerful tool and media from both sides won’t doubt to distort information to benefit their own countries.

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              2 months ago

              They literally cite their sources. They always cite their sources. Just dismissing it as “Wikipedia is written by Westerners” pretends that isn’t true. And I know you’re not that stupid.

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                Could you please do me the favour and read my writeup before responding like that? I addressed what you’re saying.

                Wikipedia itself has an article on its own bias, and an article on which sources the wiki editors consider reliable. Feel free to read my writeup for extended info on that.

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                  Is your writeup about that specific article? Because if not, it’s irrelevant. You can judge whether the source is reliable by going there, which you are apparently unwilling to do because you’ve already decided it’s too biased.

                  Also, there are Wikipedia editors from all over the world. I think you know that too.

                  Seems like your real problem is they’re being big meanies to Russia which only has the best intentions for Ukrainians and would never commit any war crimes.

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    2 months ago

    Idiots don’t fact-check, and now we all pay the price. We can leave Twitter, Bluesky, Reddit, whatever—but nothing can stops them anymore.

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      Keep in mind that state propaganda doesn’t equate misinformation. This very article is western state propaganda (“kyivinsider” using “alliance4europe” as a source for the article), and the report is most likely true. You don’t need to strictly lie or misinform to create state propaganda, you just need to propagate your talking points and direct the public discourse to given topics. We’re very concerned about Russian propaganda (and rightfully so) but, fuck, we’ve been literally supporting a genocide and all the state propaganda from our own western countries was directing ourselves in other direction, maybe we should worry about that too. We’re literally consuming state propaganda right now in this article.

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    2 months ago

    Oh, good. I was worried we might actually get to keep a platform free of garbage. Whew. Can’t wait for all those conspiracy nuts to join in too!

    /s

    Seriously, if someone would just off Putin, that’d be great. Let Russia fall into a little civil war as smaller leaders fight amongst themselves for the scraps.

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      2 months ago

      Just curious. Would you support a civil war in now openly fascist USA (see support of genocide and nazi salutes in presidential inauguration)? I don’t support civil war in either because that’s a horrifying outcome for the population of both.