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People love surveillance genocide! Boffo Box Office!

To leftists, liberalism, even progressive liberalism, can never address the material concerns for workers, inequal accumulation, and capitalism’s contradictions because it cannot attack the central tenet of its ideology: the private ownership of land and resources.To leftists, liberalism, even progressive liberalism, can never address the material concerns for workers, inequal accumulation, and capitalism’s contradictions because it cannot attack the central tenet of its ideology: the private ownership of land and resources.

Well put, and yes I’d agree. Where I seem to draw the ire of leftists is when I point to the clock and say we have one year before we have to vote, and all things being equal we’re going to vote for the Democrats because attacking the central tenet of this country’s dominant ideology is not going to happen in this election cycle.

The 2024 Presidential election threads were a depressing reminder that some leftists can’t get out of their heads, or ivory towers, or whatever to make incremental progress because the glorious revolution is at hand. Or something. So I get to be the evil liberal who wants healthcare for all, student loan forgiveness, and a Green New Deal. And all of those things go down the shitter because republiQans vote as a single juggernaut bloc and we don’t.

Lemmy has been enlightening in teaching me these things but yes - different!

I have a little knowledge there, but I’m good, thanks. I’m really more interested in defeating the republiQan hate machine so we can get people healthcare and save the environment.

Not that it’s not interesting - I just have a slightly different take than Marx because Marx didn’t live in 2025.

Hm. Well, that’s interesting.

That’s pretty much every liberal I know, yeah.

Well. I know some house painters I guess. They don’t work for someone else, per se.

Mmm hmmm. Yeah. Yes.

So an American proletariat is . . . Anyone who is limited by health insurance, student loans, and mortgage rates? Or is it something else?

We don’t really use the word proletariat, uh, at all. Ever.

I’m kind of surprised to not see this answer, so I’ll throw it in: it seems to me that there are a lot of people from various countries who have built-in language for politics that they believe is shared across the world - but it isn’t.

As a dumb American, I’ve always been a liberal because that was the inclusive, progressive, luxury-gay-space-communism option as opposed to the conservative, regressive, racist, ignorant violent option. People from other countries don’t seem to appreciate that at all, because their “liberal” is what we’d call neoliberal or corporate Democrat, and they apparently don’t have a FPTP / Slaver’s College fix on their elections and they just don’t grok the two party thing.

As you can imagine on here there’s a lot of hate from both conservatives and leftists for “liberals”. I think that’s ridiculous but it’s usually easier to try and adopt their definitions than to explain why the other 379,999,999 of us don’t use it that way. (Well - 350M, say. Parts of the PNW use it that way too.). It’s just kind of exhausting in threads about American politics.

If someone calls me a “liberal” (or libtard, libcuck, etc) I naturally assume they’re racist, fascist, AM radio fuckwits. But then they want to jump into some world where H4A, UBI, No Oil is what they’re all about and once again I’m like - well, yeah we agree, again. So.

(Usually the retort is, “well then why are you a liberal?!” Which. Goes back to the exhausting thing.)

Dunno, i blocked everything and they never appeared again

So far as I can tell they’ve stolen everyone’s content and use it to pretend AI “knows” everything, or anything.

If that’s never addressed, and they will make it almost impossible to do that, AI will survive in several forms.

One outcome will be a sea-level-rise in superfluous text that’s all coming from the same point-of-view and is pretty bland.

You know how people don’t like to read now? Imagine every report, every article, every pullquote being three times longer than it needs to be and basically saying the same thing over and over.

You and me both.

Where are the shops retrofitting decent cars with electric engines? Gimme that EV 911 from 1988. . . for . . . 11 thousand? Okay fifteen.

the first time a House speaker had taken live questions from voters on the network in 24 years.

And, presumably, the last. I guess someone told him a bunch of MAGAts love calling in and he thought he’d scoop up some easy press.

Well it sure beats being gay, am i right Florida?!

*hears sirens approaching*

Uh oh. I forgot.

We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!

I concur. You should send that to Ken Martin

Yeah. It’s astounding. People live every day with and within these lighted rectangles and have no fucking clue, and rarely any interest, in how they work.

I’m just done with them. Whenever it doesn’t do what they want and they start screeching, I just calmly get up and walk over and close the door.

Oh Windows problem eh? *sst*. Mmm. That sucks, bro.

Well, bye.

Americans are stupid enough to have put all their personal information into facebook and wouldn’t know how to organize without a billionaire fascist’s big brother app.

It’s kind of neat how wrong you got it.