I left Reddit much too late. I guess some habits can be hard to break.
Btw I’m a non-binary trans person [they/she/he].
I was not satisfied by my previous answer, so I thought of deleting it and giving it another try.
So your suggestion is that we can keep our moral judgments out of practical considerations without espousing the objective truth of moral facts?
Not at all. I would be extremely hesitant to suggest something on this topic, for all people. In a way, this is the reason why I talked about how I see things on a personal level, specifically.
About the category error, once more I don’t know the terms you use, so I will answer from what I understand by the way you describe them.
My question was related to a notion (objective morality), and not a physical object (i.e. a rock). Notions exist - to my understanding - because we use language, so we should be able to define them. An object like a rock, is there even if language is not used. So I don’t see where the category error could be.
Finally, I will rephrase my 2-part question for clarity, because only half of it got kind of answered:
Since you claim that morality is objective I would assume that you would be capable of tracing where this objectivity comes from, how it emerged, and how it stays that way. I’m not too sure how to phrase this as a question, but it’s something along those lines.
Also, if it were objective for all people, I imagine we would all know its content. But, for example, the terms morally good & morally bad even tho they are commonly used in modern languages, they often have different content. So, it seems clear to me that the terms morally good and bad are not objective. So which morality is objective? Please, describe the content of this notion you claim to be objective.
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I don’t know the term you mentioned so I’ll be talking about the points you made, not the term itself.
So, I don’t need morality to condemn the human suffering that slavery, female genital mutilation, or genocide creates. I don’t need a moral lens for this, just a practical one – out of solidarity, for freedom, equity, equality etc, for everyone on this planet. This is why it’s easy for me to justify any fight for social justice. These fights are by default systemic so against the status quo. I hope it is clear why I don’t need an objective moral truth.
I would like to ask you, when you say morality is objective who defines it and what is it?
The way I see things, there is nothing objective about morality because it is based on cultural principles, and these vary from place to place and through time as well.
I think that morality is relative to each person and in the same time it is shaped from social and cultural norms.
In relation to your answer to my question, I came to realise that I don’t think that I will get a satisfactory one, because of our different backgrounds. What I mean is that you talk with philosophical terms to a commoner. For example (and to my understanding) you talk about moral facts as a given term, and for me this notion doesn’t even exist. Don’t get me wrong, good for you!
Also, taking into consideration that our answers are getting longer and longer, maybe this could be a good exit point. So, I would like to thank you for the time you spent on this conversation, because I enjoy thinking and you gave me food for thought.