Hmm, I wonder if it is actually. I think it’s just a euphemism for it’s wrong how" or “it’s weird how we as people keep allowing this to happen in a democratic world”, but I honestly don’t think it’s sarcasm.

I get the point and I write that way all the time too, but I thought to see what happens if I just stop participating in the pretense of it being weird.

But yes maybe it is just sarcasm, but like the same sort of rhetoric is often used to talk about problems which are sort of too complex and large to easily assert something which should or even could be done.

But yes. Sarcasm.

I don’t see how pretending that’s weird is gonna help anyone.

We all know we don’t live in a just world.

We need to try and make it one, instead of pretending we’re living in one which happens to have horrid injustice happening all the time.

You’re not taking a stand.

That’s like me saying “hey, that guy there, he raped a person, I saw him put his dick into another person with force, against their will” and me asking you to be a witness and affirm that thing to the cops, and then you come in and say “well yeah, everyone who has a penis is technically a rapist, so yeah, I admit that that person is a rapist because he has a penis” which would mean you’re implying that you are not a witness to that rape.

You see how this works? Like each and every time, I have to draw it out of you, and then when I do, you just skip and run. I told you, we’ve had this chat a dozen times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

Since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Russian military and authorities have committed war crimes, such as deliberate attacks against civilian targets, including on hospitals, medical facilities and on the energy grid;[1][2][3] indiscriminate attacks on densely-populated areas; the abduction, torture and murder of civilians; forced deportations; sexual violence; destruction of cultural heritage; and the killing and torture of Ukrainian prisoners of war.

If you accept these to be true, I’d shut up. But you won’t. Instead you’ll keep whatabouting about Zelensky, hoping I’ll instead try to shift the conversation onto asking “why don’t you support Zelensky”, but that’s kinda obvious, so I don’t. And you won’t accept those crimes, like all the dozens of times before, and you won’t accept that Putin should be held personally responsible for those crimes either, I’d wager.

Please, do prove me wrong.

So you admit he’s a warcriminal because of the crimes on humanity he’s guilty of, which Zelensky is not? You’re not taking a side.

I don’t think you’re a state actor, you’re clearly not a professional in anything. But like… even if I did, do you think I’m actually trying to say that Russian disinfo wouldn’t be able to lie?

Now you’re just doing the very same “oh I already admitted to that” thing, because you pretend like saying “all world leaders are bad” means the same thing as admitting to Putin’s crimes.

You avoid being directly unpatriotic, because you think you can outsmart me. It’s like watching a toddler hide behind some curtains, not realising their feet are showing and that one can actually hear them giggling.

Basically, you avoid anything that could actually get you thrown out of a window. You won’t actually take a stand against Putin. No, you’ll try to pretend to admit to criticising him while trying to criticise Zelensky. Zelensky hasn’t invaded a sovereign nation with his armed forces. He is defending his country though, and unlike Putin, he isn’t a low-test bald fattie hiding in a bunker.

See, this is exactly what you do. You pretend to admit to it, but only in a comment where you say “oh yeah, Putin is a warcriminal IF everyone else is as well”. That’s not admitting to his criminality, that’s you trying to be “smart.”

It’s genuinely like arguing a twelve-year old school boy. Worse, honestly. I talked to some tweeners today on the bus and they made better arguments than you do when they defended vaping on the bus. FFS.

Ask a question… like; would you mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal and a sad bald bastard?

Yes hello.

I was waiting for one of you to turn up.

Don’t think I be forgotten your nickname.

Nice strawmanning, but “on every platform” =/= “everywhere.”

Thanks for the case in point, comrade!

It’s not all of them, but it’s enough to influence idiots.

Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

You’ll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

People exactly like Davel.

I had a similar moron on Ireland discord claim he’s native born Irish, I taunted him to voice channel and when he spoke it was a very heavy Russian accent, and bro didn’t even know what a limerick is.

It’s beyond easy to catch poorly educated Ruskis playing westerners if you keep any wits about you.

I’ve been talking about it for quote a long time.

Lemmy for one is infested with Russian pretending to be American.

Davel and a hundred others davel@lemmy.ml