That’s what I thought, you have no statistics and your entire claim is baseless.

I’m out, have fun with your legal rulings or whatever.

It’s not a strawman, your reaction to “might die” was “right of way” not “well be safe about it.” Again, right of way is merely a means of standardizing legal culpability, not a means of safety. Ergo, more concerned with legal culpability than safety.

Then it’s just me because you clearly haven’t been reading it.

Btw you ever find that data to back up your fantasy that right of way laws actually affect drivers safety consciousness? 'Cause I still doubt your premise and I asked about it like ten replies ago. If you have none still, I’m done with this conversation.

I mentioned my state having laws saying pedestrians have the right of way, are these the crushingly authoritarian laws of which you speak, or are you fantasizing?

In any case, yes, pedestrians who indeed have the right of way in my state often (not all every single one every time you ever see a person, but often enough to have noted it being an issue, what is this “all do or all don’t” black/white thinking?) do indeed act like complete morons, what’s more when you ask these idiots why, they, like you, reply “I have the right of way” most of the time, and again I’ve never understood you people who care more for legal culpability than your own safety. This really isn’t as hard to understand as you’re pretending it is.

except one friend who bounced off the hood of a Ferrari but - by his own admission - that was entirely his own fault

But he had the right of way which is what is important! Don’t let his safety be his concern, nor yours.

Drivers always have to be careful of hazards, whether they’re deer or humans who are too stupid to look both ways, it happens all too often. Most drivers don’t want to hit a deer or a human regardless of legal culpability, if you’re incapable of believing humans can have empathy for things hit by cars, then even still you must admit they would want to avoid damage to their car, in all but the most extreme cases like Bastille day 2016 (don’t think he particularly cared who had the right of way anyway, however.)

The “determined at fault” thing is literally “right of way.” What do you think that means?

The right of way for pedestrians refers to the legal rules that determine when pedestrians can cross the street and when vehicles must yield to them. Generally, pedestrians have the right of way at marked and unmarked crosswalks, but they must also follow traffic signals and not enter the roadway unexpectedly.

Literally all that means is that legally you can cross where/when specified, which in practice means that if someone hits you they will be found at fault. It does not guarantee safety. The entire phrase “right of way” is legal jargon, for the legal system which determines who is at fault for what. What the fuck do you mean “fixated on determining fault” that is the entire point of the phrase you wrote in the comment I initially replied to, in which you were arguing someone who said one could “win the darwin award” (i.e die) for crossing the street irresponsibly. Am I the only one reading this thread or something?

I’ve seen people do just that in person, and my state says pedestrians have the right of way.

I’ve seen people just walk out into the street without looking at all; people who look but then still step out forcing a driver (who they should have waited for) to slam on the breaks; people who (in contrast to those kind enough to speedwalk a little and get out of the car’s way) will walk slowly as they can while defiantly looking at the waiting car as if to say “do it, hit me” while the car waits on patiently; people who literally just hang out in the street drinking beer; people crossing just after a blind curve on a higher speed street; and more general unsafe dumbassery I’m sure I’m forgetting.

Sure, most of the above is allowed (minus the beer) legally, and yes as you have pointed out if the driver hits them they’ll be held criminally liable, but it’s still putting yourself in a dangerous position regardless of criminal or civil liability. People who “had the right of way” die every day, literally, the right of way only helps their families in the court case.

And sure, maybe that only happens everywhere I’ve ever been across two different (large, not European) countries but that’d be a pretty big coincidence so I’m more inclined to believe your confirmation bias has you simply not noticing that it happens around you, too. Or maybe everyone in your country really is more civilized and better than others, yay nationalism or whatever.

Just remember that even if you have the right of way all it takes is one distracted driver to smoke your ass and you should still be careful if your priority is staying alive, if your priority is who has the right of way or who will be determined at fault for the accident have fun I suppose.

I mean not really, to be fair not leaving your loved ones out to dry is a common thing to worry about, life insurance and inheritance being some of the largest examples. And y’know that whole eternal question deal.

But that is wholly unrelated to the fact that “the pedestrian has the right of way” directly means “so if you die, then you won’t be considered at fault,” but you’ll still be considered “dead.”

Even if your hypothesis is correct (that “pedestrians have the right of way” means drivers are more vigilant, btw citation needed), that’s all well and good, but it doesn’t mean you should lollygag in the street or cross irresponsibly simply because the law will be vewy angwy with the driver if they hit you, it’s still a good idea to take an active role in your safety, whether you’re legally required to or not.

I don’t “fixate on what happens when I’m dead,” I try to remain safe so I don’t “dead” from jumping in front of a 2,000+ lbs hunk of mostly plastic, and I’ve never understood the seemingly suicidal people who fall back on “well he’s not supposed to hit me.”

Depends on where you’re at to some degree I suppose (especially because if there are no designated crosswalks then there is no “jaywalking” as the latter action is predicated on the former condition), though “being where the cars go vroom” is still more likely to get you hit by one than “not being where the cars go vroom” no matter what the area is zoned for.

Yet still, my point is “the right of way” isn’t some magic forcefield that prevents injury or death, but simply means that if you do get injured or dead someone will be charged with involuntary manslaughter about it and likely have to pay your family money. And again I’d say “cool but I’d rather be alive,” so for me the true advice isn’t “don’t worry the state will make sure your surviving family members get a little cash,” it’s “try not to get dead in the first place if you can avoid it.”

That’ll help you win the case after you’re dead or injured for life, so that’s good!

I mean, you’d still be more likely to get hit and personally I’d think you’d want to avoid that, but if you accept that reality and are more concerned about financially benefiting (or your family benefiting, if you’re now a corpse) then this is sound logic!

I’ve never understood it myself, because I am the type that wants to do everything in my power to avoid being grievously injured to begin with even if it’s “the other guy’s fault,” but hey, different strokes.

I mean, I wouldn’t mind if I could use my flipper for it, but the big issue is “if flipper break get fucked.” I can back up my .kdbx file in 14 luks encrypted locations, I can’t backup a whole ass flipper as easily.

LOL wearing condoms is copium now? Have fun with your STDs!

I mean, I understand where you’re coming from, they absolutely shouldn’t log IPs. BUT, if you’re committing crimes or even doing legal things the government doesn’t like, it would behoove you to put in the absolute bare minimum of OPSEC at least.

Like, some people know they have STDs and don’t warn people and spread them, right? And while the spreader is obviously the problem there, some commonly accepted advice to the victim is “you should have worn a condom anyway.” And they should have worn a condom to protect themselves (and also the spreader should be held liable.)

Like the previous example, anyone using any online service (for secrety things) should know to put a VPN condom on before they put their data inside that sexy, slutty server rack. And like how contraceptives were that knowledge needs to be spread.

Well I never said it was, I said that was probably why “warnings.”

Honestly, he probably was looking for drunks, and when you clearly weren’t he just played it off (poorly).

I was thinking the same thing, I’m pissed too because I was planning on coming back and downloading some of the TUI packages that had been mentioned, but when I went to reference the post it was gone. Guess I’ll go fuck myself lol.

I thought mine didn’t work too, turns out “switch to tty2 then switch back to tty7 for your DE” (which is what every internet advice says) was dumb advice because I’m using Fedora which for some reason puts the DE on 2, SDDM on 1, and I think maybe plymouth on 7. Took me SO long to figure that out, 3-6 work just fine though. Pain in the ass lol, no clue why they decided to do it differently than every other distro (and haven’t found it in their docs) but at least now I know!

But it won’t include linux drivers

*rimshot*

Screens would get in the way of my many magnets with notes. Not only does it not “need” one, I’m actively anti screen in this case.

I do, but idk how that effects that problem since I stopped using it due to that problem. Also, ironically, removing sms support killed a big selling point, and the fact that phone numbers are still required is pretty lame.

Well facts lol, or any phone because telcoms have been keeping records on landlines since at least ~1982.

Ah that’d make sense, thanks! Idk why I can’t find the info anywhere online, it has to be in the fedora docs somewhere!

Edit: Ok 1 is definitely the login screen, just tried before login. 7? Remains to be seen but I bet you’re right, prob plymouth.

Ah so that’s why flashy line, am already logged in to KDE. I guess when I log in the system auto switches me from tty1 login to tty2 KDE? But then why does tty7 have the same flashy line, both can’t be login, can they?