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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Good job Joe, now if only you didn’t credulously believe every bad faith fascist narritive from the last 10 years.

  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    An important reminder is that Kimmel’s monologue did not say anything slightly negative about Charlie Kirk’s demonic zionazi and replacement theorgy genocidal supremacism. He only made fun of Trump for interviews in which he was asked about any sympathy he had for his dead dear friend, getting deflect-weaved into “we’re building the bestest ballroom in the white house now”.

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        6 days ago

        He didn’t even say that though, this is driving me insane, he said that Trump and them were doing everything they could to pin the blame on the left and score political points from it, which is undeniable. He didn’t say anything about who he actually thought the shooter was.

        • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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          6 days ago

          He literally said that the right is “desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them”.

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                5 days ago

                How do you interpret it any way other than what it says? You are making an assumption if you interpret it differently than what he clearly stated.

                • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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                  5 days ago

                  I read it as him saying that the shooter was unquestionably right wing, which is different than saying that the right wing is desperate to prove that it’s anyone else.

      • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        He implied it but he straight up was factually saying they’re trying real hard to show it wasn’t one of their guys. It definitely wasn’t any of the people MAGA wanted to pin it on.

        Turns out it was some kind of apolitical zoomer whose friends were personally affected by Kirk’s rhetoric likely because the problem with living in the most conservative US state is that a lot of people around you are probably repeating the vitriol.

        There’s still a decent good case to be made that MAGA bullied this kid into killing Kirk by threatening people he loves.

          • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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            6 days ago

            He lives in Utah. My uncle who had parkinsons would watch fox news all day and thought trans ISIS was going to invade his house in 2019. I can’t imagine how difficult it is for anyone othered by these media cartels is in states where people are heavily enthralled.

      • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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        6 days ago

        The 2 candidates are Bill Ackman or Nick Fuentes “influence”. That Carr, Trump, Sinclair need to protect one of those 2 shows how corrupt democracy is.

        Next election needs to promise to nationalize with no compensation all zionazi media, zeroing out all directors and exectutives wealth, decitizenize any politician pledging allegiance to Israel, zeroing out all of their donors, and nationalize defense and oil industry.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    Joe has always been good at knowing which side of the fence to temporarily come off of.

  • chunes@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I miss when this guy just hosted a funny show that made people eat bugs for money.

    • Tower@lemmy.zip
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      8 days ago

      Nah, that would be when Ted Cruz made similar comments the other day.

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          8 days ago

          Well, not just that. They derive a great deal of success from ranting against the ‘liberal agenda’. If all the vaguely left leaning voices are obviously silenced, then their own engagement goes down because there’s no opposition voice to rant against. As ridiculous they look on a normal day, they look just utterly beyond crazy in a scenario where everyone but them are essentially gagged.

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            8 days ago

            Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices.

            After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president’s lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he’s a cynical motherfucker.

            That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for.

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        8 days ago

        With all the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk’s shooting, and it’s a new level of Bizarro World out there, the most bizarre may be that Rafael Edward Cruz was a voice of reason.

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          8 days ago

          the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk’s shooting

          Now you have right wing gun folk saying the shot was impossible because they know the 30-06 would penetrate way more and do more massive damage than it did according to the report.

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            8 days ago

            I’ve been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person

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            7 days ago

            There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it.

            It is literally physically impossible.

          • Cassanderer@thelemmy.club
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            8 days ago

            Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home.

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              8 days ago

              There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken).

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            7 days ago

            They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else.

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          8 days ago

          I am used to that part by now, I have found myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor green on several subjects. Both of which made better points than the Democratic politicians or influencers on some of them.

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      4 days ago

      There will be nothing more unintentionally funny than buying a comedy club and putting a photo of himself next to comedy greats.

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    8 days ago

    fuck this grift. this dude did more propoganda minutes for Maga than Charlie did, he doesn’t give af about free speech beyond crying about how “censored” he is into the world’s largest microphone

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    8 days ago

    He said that if such interference were really happening and conservatives were supporting such behavior they were “crazy” because eventually they themselves would be the target of such censorship

    What’s really wild is that his biggest concern is that the people doing the fascist thing could become the target of it later. There’s no dawning of ‘oh maybe the people doing this aren’t so good’ no, he’s worried that the other people who have been warning that they are fascists might pursue them later with the fascist precedent they are putting in place.

    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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      8 days ago

      Not necessarily. It’s called arguing a conclusion to your audience in terms of premises they’ll accept & understand.

      The conclusion is “censorship is dangerous”. The premise “fascists are pieces of shit” doesn’t support that. That’s a separate argument entirely.

      Moreover, fascists are unlikely to accept that premise. Arguing that is a great way to make fascists stop listening, which people who don’t know how to argue excel at.