• insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Yes there are a multitude of reasons, not least that filtering only does so much and constant surveillance is unrealistic.

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      2 days ago

      As well as unhealthy. Why give your kid a device if you don’t trust them with it?

      That’s my standard. Either I trust them with the device, or I don’t, and no amount of filters will help me feel comfortable with giving them something early. I was a kid, and I know kids can figure out how to evade filters. I’ve done it myself.

      So no, either no phone or complete trust, and they need to earn my trust first.

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        2 days ago

        Yes, it’s part of set them up to succeed not fail. And another part of it is I want them to have a clean break from the outside world, from friendship drama or clinginess, from school stuff, etc. Digital switch off isn’t something people are good at doing by themselves as adults!

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          2 days ago

          I think the healthier way to handle that is to explain why it’s a good thing and help them set appropriate boundaries. I like what my boss does, every week or two they have a “no tech” day where they put their phones in a safe, including the parents. They then have fun together, either by playing board games, having a picnic, etc.

          Give them advance notice so they can plan appropriately, and make sure it’s fun. If they like it, they’ll likely want to do it again.

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            2 days ago

            I think you’re assuming a lot from a little. I’m not explaining every thing we do around my home and my kids. I’m explaining 1 thing, it’s not everything.

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              1 day ago

              What else can I do? I’m not speaking specifically to you, this is a public forum so I’m trying to keep my statements broad enough that they’d hopefully apply to more people than just you, but who are in a similar situation.

              If it doesn’t apply to your specific circumstance, cool, you’re presumably an adult and can decide what’s best for you and yours. My larger point is that having some amount of distance from technology occasionally to improve bonding within a family is generally a good thing, for most people. Maybe your kid is autistic and screen time is the best way for them to learn and interact. Idk, I’m not you, I can only speak to what I’ve seen written.

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                1 day ago

                When you say things like “the healthier way is…” that’s a response to me directly and a judgment. So it’s that kind of thing.

                But sure it’s fine, I’m open to the conversation, just not up for defending a decision.

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                  1 day ago

                  “the healthier way is…” that’s a response to me directly and a judgment

                  That’s an opinion. It’s also one that I could probably support with evidence, though the research on the subject is in flux right now, kind of like video games and violence were back in the 90s/00s when we were concerned about school shootings.

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                    If I say I do X and you say the healthier way is Y, that is a response to what I said and a judgment. If that’s not what it is, you’d need to write it differently.

                    Yeah the hard part is that there no real established science on this, it’s the wild west online and we’re approaching it slowly with open conversation and trust at an age appropriate level. There’s some risk but that will always be true.

                    It’ll only be when we look back that we’ll maybe know the right way but maybe not. Like a lot of things, it’s very context dependent… the child, the family, the village, the relationships, the school, etc etc